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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2012, 11:52:11 AM »


...Unless I get a Victory.


e tu Brute'?   Hysterical Laughing Hysterical Laughing Hysterical Laughing

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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2012, 08:26:58 AM »

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To be or not to be a Harley Rider.  That's the question.  I love my bike.  But I got lucky.  I've had few engine issues, no leaks.  What problems I've had have been covered under the warrenty and fixed right the first time, other than the heated grips.

But as I get older, I may want something a little lighter.  I have bad shoulders and back.  I may want something a little less hot.  Victory seems to have some bikes that fit the bill.  But so does the V-Rod.  I will always be a FD guy so it comes down to wanting to invest everything it will take to make the V-Rod the bike I want.  Right now, that's probably the direction I'll go.  But I do want Harley to know that I am not a sure thing.  I want them to understand that here is a customer with 3 Harleys in the garage one of which is their top of the line bike.  And I might not be back if they don't get that HIA (Head In Ass) syndrome taken care of.

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My Ride 1:07 FLHRSE3 - black ice - gone

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My Ride 3:82 Nighthawk - sold forever ago

My Ride 4:11 FLTRUSE - Rio Red
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2012, 09:01:25 AM »

Hey just thought I'd throw in some thoughts since a number of points were made here comparing a few rides I can speak to.

BB's absolutely spot-on comparing the 3 main baggers.  Nothing beats the versatility of a Road King.  Solid performer on the long haul, and easy to swap into bar-hopper mode.  I put 35K very happy miles on my '07 SERK (yes it did get "the leak" but one and done on the fix under w*****ty) but for long distance, many compromises were necessary, and I found myself pricing out a KTP, hard saddlebags, Dragonfly, etc in order to address these issues.  Didn't make economic sense - spend $7k-$10k to create a convertible Utra Classic and still have a (then) 4 year old bike closing in on 40k miles.

So it was either spend a wad of coin on an old bike and still far short of what I wanted or take that coin, plus the SERK and a Vrod (07 VRSCDX) and get an 11 FLTRUSE.  Bought it within a couple days of the 12 CVO model announcement and got it under MSRP.  The SERK upgrade budget got repurposed for the SERGU.

Happier than ever on long runs.  I just got back from a 3k ride to Florida and back to NJ.

Some comments about the Vrod since you're thinking that way J-Carr.  Loved riding that DX!!!  It was by far the biggest head-turner I have owned among the 3 HDs I've had in the past 5 years.  Awesome riding position.  Fast.  Not so much in the twisties though with the 240 out back, but it was a forgivable sin for a super smooth bike, both in terms of looks and ride.

I do not think the Road Rod conversion or whatever it's called would be the touring bike I would want, though.  While smooth, the bike wasn't built to ride 500-1000 miles per day.  At 359, I was spent.

I think there must be a way to shove the wet-head into a 09+ touring frame.  Talk about a combo with potential, but since I've never seen it done I have to conclude it can't be done.  Yes the radiator would destroy the lines of a bagger frame, but I am certain we'll see it from the MoCo soon, and everyone will have an opinion on that.  Mine is, embrace it, try it, decide whether to buy it when you see one and ride one.

Other comments, which I'll try to keep brief.

GH did the same move as I did, roughly speaking, from an old-frame SERK to a new frame SERG.  I stayed with him on the way back from Sturgis last year, the maiden run for my new SERGU.  Totally agree with his comments elsewhere on new vs old frame.

RG fairing vs batwing fairing.  I tried a SG and an EG found the handling excellent on both.  Super manueverable in tight turns, much more so than the RG.  For me, the RG feels much heavier up front than batwing bikes.  That said, the RG is the better long distance setup, by far.  Wide open c!@#pit with the only compromise a long reach to the soft keys on the radio for the occasional adjustment.  Besides that, the RG handles cross winds much better - as BB said, they push the bike, not the bars.

Looks?  Eye of the beholder.  Initially I preferred the batwing look.  Gotta say, once the 09 SERG hit the streets, I changed my view.  I don't see ever going from a shark to a bat at this point, both on a ride and on a looks basis.

Minor annoyances do include fewer aftermarket options vs the batwing bikes, but that's a temporary issue for me - I'm close to done in terms of the few mods I have in mind, but the lack of LED headlight options is on that short list of gripes.  One small shop has already begun making drop-in LED headlights for the RG and more will follow, including whatever overpriced option the MoCo release later this year.

All in all, I'm very happy with the new frame vs old, and the SERGU specifically.

Ride safe,
Patrick.
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2012, 02:40:27 PM »

Good write up Patrick. How've you been?  GH has told me many times how night and day difference the frames are and has offered his bike to me many times to confirm. I just haven't taken him up on it yet. There were a lot of road glides at ribfest. I formerly never liked the look of the sharknose with duel headlight. The colors and paint schemes are mind blowing now. The 2012 blue is one of the most striking colors I've seen and I always thought I only liked red. And the look of the rear with the extended bags, fascia, wide rear tire and LED brake/turn lights.... Well, lets just say they knocked it out of the park with that.....
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My Ride 2:1966 Road Queen Dori all original parts with some removed for better performance. "Screamin' Malinda"
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2012, 07:22:22 AM »

Thanks for the info Patrick.  Your take on it is right on par with my experience riding my kids V-Rod.  I'd have to be able to do something with the suspension to make it a reality.  I'm just too heavy at 240 lbs to make it work.  But I will keep it as an available option as I talk to more suspension guys at the rallys.

I will keep my Batwing 08.  Once it's paid off I will be moving to a Road Glide.  Same stories over and over again.  And I've never heard a fellow switch to a RG from a BatBike and feel they'd go back.  Some guys like both and some swear it's a RG or bust.

So it looks like I will be following your advice, but I still have two more years to go before I even think about it.  And who knows what the MoCo will do by then...?

Ride Safe,
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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2012, 12:42:28 AM »

...I will keep my Batwing 08.  Once it's paid off I will be moving to a Road Glide.  Same stories over and over again.  And I've never heard a fellow switch to a RG from a BatBike and feel they'd go back.  Some guys like both and some swear it's a RG or bust.

So it looks like I will be following your advice, but I still have two more years to go before I even think about it.  And who knows what the MoCo will do by then...?

Ride Safe,
JC

I jumped on a 2001 Road Glide Screamer in ’01, and rode Shark Nose machines until 2008, when I picked up a Street Glide. I purchased another FLHX in ’09, and will pick up another this year.

I dial it up from time to time, and I feel that the Batwing does a great job. I’ve ridden behind a chopped windshield since the ’01 Screamer, and enjoy a little breeze with my gasoline.
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My Ride 2:1966 Road Queen Dori all original parts with some removed for better performance. "Screamin' Malinda"
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2012, 07:08:30 AM »

I've tried chopped shields and don't like the buffeting on the the batwing.  Heard it can be worse on the shark nose but I think it all depends on riding position, posture and height.

I've also tried tall shields for winter riding.  Problem is the visibility sucks when the damn thing fogs up.  And in PA, we get fog.

So after much expermamenting and trying different shields I found the perfect one.  The stock screamin' Eagle one that came with my bike.  Who'da thunk it?  The moco designed a piece that I think is just right!

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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2012, 08:17:10 AM »

I rode Kenny Lees SERG at Ribfest.  I did like the unladen weight on the bars for waddling around but the windshield needed to be about 4 inches taller for me to be effective, maybe? I dunno, took 6 batwings shields for me to find one ( freedom 9) ...all in all, I like both bikes.  Chips new blue serg was a looker, best paint in quite some time, very little orange peel on the front fender.

I did break KL's bike though, the oil pressure gauge sender was wetting my boot down by the end of then day...I don't know much about anything but my liesurely country road rides don't often need me to hit 5K on the tach...alot...

But I like motorcycles, most of them...I may trailer the oldster up there next year, maybe. Those roads were nice around the lodge and out on land between the lakes and on the trace.  Just me n Schmoops for about 50 miles, no stops no intersections, just rolling along. I did not fine the RG fairing distracting at all, the D&D pipe rendered the stereo useless however.
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2012, 08:24:39 AM »

Chips new blue serg was a looker, best paint in quite some time, very little orange peel on the front fender.


I was quite stunned by how nice that looked.  I never thought I even liked blue.
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2012, 12:40:43 PM »

I rode Kenny Lees SERG at Ribfest.  I did like the unladen weight on the bars for waddling around but the windshield needed to be about 4 inches taller for me to be effective, maybe? I dunno, took 6 batwings shields for me to find one ( freedom 9) ...all in all, I like both bikes.  Chips new blue serg was a looker, best paint in quite some time, very little orange peel on the front fender.

I did break KL's bike though, the oil pressure gauge sender was wetting my boot down by the end of then day...I don't know much about anything but my liesurely country road rides don't often need me to hit 5K on the tach...alot...

But I like motorcycles, most of them...I may trailer the oldster up there next year, maybe. Those roads were nice around the lodge and out on land between the lakes and on the trace.  Just me n Schmoops for about 50 miles, no stops no intersections, just rolling along. I did not fine the RG fairing distracting at all, the D&D pipe rendered the stereo useless however.

It's not much broke. Imagine if I'd loaned it to Howie!  Hysterical Laughing Hysterical Laughing Hysterical Laughing
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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2012, 12:44:43 PM »

The way we were running rapidly about I was thinking he was runnin that pack but then I remembered you said the yeller bike only ran good wfo.. Drink

Thanks for a great time Ken....and Cheri..and Spare Rib and Riblet, Poke Rib...mmhmm.
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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2012, 04:13:12 AM »

I have both bikes...the '11 SERGU is probably the sweetest long-haul bike I've ever had.  It handles like a dream, isn't affect by cross-winds like the SESG and low-speed handling is much lighter, due to the unladen weight on the handlebars.  It handles so nicely, I can't tell the difference when my BSR is on, which I've never experienced on any bike.  Don't get me wrong though, I love my SESG too.  It's my single-up ride and is great for hotrodding and short (less than 200 mile trips) and definitely gets the looks over the SERGU, but for long riding, it's the SERGU and the SESG sits in the garage. 

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« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2014, 09:34:43 AM »

Old news, thru this in for the hell of it,pic is from august of 11 bike was home 1 day, I agree with BB [Brian I'm Randy] my opinion if ya want to get out in the wind dont get behind a fairing, all in all for me a HD without a fairing is a much more universal ride, unless I'm touring it probably put a bigger smile on. The batwing and the roadglide are a bit much for going to the store for eggs and beer.
 I love my road glide and agree with the popular statements on weight, wind, and cumbersome. i dont ever want to see an HD get any bigger or loaded with options, I had a 1967 flh dead nutt original when I got it it had 2800 miles on it and was parked in 69 then I bought it and tuned it up, it didn't take much, this was a smile machine that to this day does not play second fiddle to any of the new HDs. Would I ride a bigger touring bike Hell Yes one with a bigger fairing and a 426 hemi manual foot shifted trans and a refrigerator in that fairing too.
  My fltruse is still dead stock original her name is "Josephine", I'll pretty much go with a welded crank, tman stage 2 deal when I do but moneys tite, we bought  my Susan [PinkE] a trike and built another garage too so changes must wait for now.
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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2014, 10:42:43 AM »

That red has to be one of the purtiest RG's I have ever seen!  Drink  Wink
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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2014, 07:11:36 PM »

That red has to be one of the purtiest RG's I have ever seen!  Drink  Wink
tanks Rob but it's just a bone stocker, course they are pretty nice just the way they come, so long as I don't forget my asbestos lined  Levis  Thumbs Up
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