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« on: March 18, 2009, 07:29:19 PM »

The most famous Cheese Steask in Philyly.
Pat's has been around since 1930 and Geno's is a newcomer-only since the sixties. They are across the street from each other in South Philly. 
I liked Geno's, my buddy liked Pat's best.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 08:34:01 PM »

Do not forget Jim's on south St , Tony Lukes on Oregon and Dellasandras in RoxBorough.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 03:05:27 PM »

Jeff can fight with me as he's from the area... But I challenge any one to argue against Tony Luke's (that Jeff mentioned in the previous post). Hands down the best Cheese steak in Philly.  And with the exposure they've gotton on Food Network, they may soon have the name recognition to go with the great steak.

The problem with all the ones mentiones in this thread... They suck to ride to.  Driving in Philly on the bike is pretty high on my list of things that suck.  I won't do it with Malinda riding beside me.  She's a great rider, but my heart just couldn't take it!  Not mention to get to any of them from my house we have to take a ride on a road affectionately refered to as the ShureKill Expressway (Schuylkill Expressyay; I-76). Just not worth it no matter how goos the Cheesesteaks are.

BTW.  If you see anyone approach a Philly cheesesteak with a long sleeve shirt on, you know they're a tourist or it's not a real Philly.

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A "Philly" cheesesteak is Sliced Steak (Not that formed and press chit), Cheese (Wiz) and a roll.  If you order a cheesesteak and get anything else on it without requesting it, they don't know what they're doing.  It's fine to order add ons, just don't pretend they "Belong" there.   Banging Head on Wall It's a pet peeve of mine.  I moved out of the Philly area and now have to constantly fight the local pizzeria's to leave sauce, onions, peppers off the damn thing unless I request it.

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2009, 03:11:58 PM »

Living in NJ for over 21 years I personally don't like the Philly, Philly cheese steaks. I like the way they make them in NJ, I don't like the cheese whiz, chit!

NJ cheese steak with real cheese, sauteed onions, mushrooms and green peppers, Now that's a cheese steak!! For a great addition as some crumbled bacon. Thumbs Up
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2009, 03:15:16 PM »

Living in NJ for over 21 years I personally don't like the Philly, Philly cheese steaks. I like the way they make them in NJ, I don't like the cheese whiz, chit!

NJ cheese steak with real cheese, sauteed onions, mushrooms and green peppers, Now that's a cheese steak!! For a great addition as some crumbled bacon. Thumbs Up
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That's the big secret.  Wink I grew up in Camden county.  We had cheesesteaks there that bury the cheeze wiz steaks.  But Tony Luke's has both which is why they're #1 in my book.

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2009, 04:37:29 PM »

Philly steaks do not have to be "wit" "wiz"  (that is with onions and cheese wiz)
I hate wiz, so you order with provolone or american instead (they all have that option)
My kids like the wiz
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 12:51:57 PM »

Philly steaks do not have to be "wit" "wiz"  (that is with onions and cheese wiz)
I hate wiz, so you order with provolone or american instead (they all have that option)
My kids like the wiz

True.  But once you order with american or prov it's not a real philly anymore.  It's better in my opinion, just not a classic philly cheesesteak.  I know Tony's does either, but I thought Pat and Geno's only did the wiz....  Been a long time for me though so I'm sure I could be way off base!

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 01:07:06 PM »

Floridah is slippin away...

http://www.bigalssteaks.com/home.html
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 01:17:06 PM »

Both of em serve with Provolone, American or whiz, and sauteed onions.  Pats has a lot of other options like pepper steak etc. I like the provolone.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 01:17:40 PM »

You would, gringo...
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 07:25:44 PM »

True.  But once you order with american or prov it's not a real philly anymore.  It's better in my opinion, just not a classic philly cheesesteak.  I know Tony's does either, but I thought Pat and Geno's only did the wiz....  Been a long time for me though so I'm sure I could be way off base!

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Pats and Geno's and every cheese steak place i(including Tony Luke's) in Philly gives you an alt choice instead of Wiz.
Most cheesesteaks downtown are not with wiz. If they only had wiz I would not go.  Wiz may be uniquely Philly. but that doesn't mean it is a Philly cheeseSteak.
take it from the cheesesteak culinary expert.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 08:28:43 AM »

Pats and Geno's and every cheese steak place i(including Tony Luke's) in Philly gives you an alt choice instead of Wiz.
Most cheesesteaks downtown are not with wiz. If they only had wiz I would not go.  Wiz may be uniquely Philly. but that doesn't mean it is a Philly cheeseSteak.
take it from the cheesesteak culinary expert.

Hmmm.  See I agree that the wiz blows.  So I order 'em with American.  But I still say to be an authentic Philly Cheesesteak it has to have the wiz.  I think the only way to settle this is to get together and sample some variety's until we all come to an agreement.  Grin Or hurl from overeating!   Hysterical Laughing

Personally, my feeling is that the meat and roll make the sandwich.  Everything else is just to taste.  I like shrooms and American.  Sometimes sauteed onions.  The whole wat makes a it a Philly Steak thing is a long playing joke I have with a friend from Kansas City who took me to great Philly Cheesesteak place.  Ummm.  It wasn't.  Great or Philly.  So we had to come up with a definition.  Wiz was the argument becasue no-one out there had ever even heard of putting Wiz on a steak.  So now I always have to be an  asshole and argue the Wiz.  Even though I don't actually like it!

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 01:06:52 PM »

It's preparation too, where I lived in NJ, they would saute a bunch of onions and green peppers in oil first thing when they got in, when the good and cooked, but not brown, Then they put them in a metal pan on the very edge of the grill, just enough to keep the warm. Fresh sliced steak, on the grill, throw the extras on the grill beside the steak, muchrooms, green peppers, onions. Chop the steak as it cooks. make a pike out of it and flip it on top of your extras then place cheese on top, then lay the open roll on top! Take a spatula Slide it under, flipping the whole sandwitch over, salt and pepper, ready to go! Man I'm really hungry now! Thumbs Up
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 01:17:40 PM »

I've been to Pat's.  My only complaint is that it's not cooked to order.  It's like a vendor at the county fair.  There's a great place in Niagara Falls called Viola's.  It's the soup nazi of steak subs.  All are cooked to order.

And of course, in Buffalo, there's Jim's Steak Out.

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2009, 08:05:50 PM »

I've been to Pat's.  My only complaint is that it's not cooked to order. 
Cooked to order? now that is funny   Hysterical Laughing Hysterical Laughing Hysterical Laughing

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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2010, 11:03:29 AM »

Been meaning to go down and compare both myself! But since they're both so commercial now, there's gotta be a BETTER place than the both of em, that only the locals know about! What place is that Jeff?!!! Roll Eyes Thumbs Up Wink

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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2010, 11:15:26 AM »

I know I'm not Jeff, but I can tell you that I've always loved Tony Luke's.  http://www.tonylukes.com/

The best Cheesesteak I ever ate was from a place in New Jersey called Pizza City.  They we're in a strip mall off of Evesham Road in Magnolia where I grew up.  I have no idea if they're even around anymore since I haven't been back since the 80s.  And if they are there, the odds are it's all changed by now.

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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2010, 11:41:32 AM »

Mr Z's in Key West, the best...especially when you are piss drunk at 4am, thats what I hear anyways... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2010, 01:25:21 PM »

I'm sticking with my claim that any place that cooks to order is the best. Its sure better than digging from a pile of steak that's been drying out on the grill like at the fair.
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2010, 01:33:54 PM »


"More meat than your mouth can handle"

You should never use that line and Key West in the same paragraph.  People could get the wrong idea.  police

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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2010, 01:58:31 PM »

f$#@ em then....Oops, that may be taken the wrong way...Doh!  So could that! I'll shut up now.   Flip-off
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2010, 08:33:49 PM »

Ok, this is the way I see it.

Tony Lukes - Great steaks but being under I95 is not much atmosphere
                   a chopped steak - they have 2 places across the street from each other
                   one is outside and the other is a sit in place.

Pat's - My personal favorite - love the hot peppers and hot sauce (really hot)
         a chopped steak. Kids go across the street I go to Pat's

Geno's - my kids favorite across the street from pats, busier, better lighting (all neon)
          place to eat under awning and the steak is truely different (not chopped)
          a truely happening place. Most likely will still be hungry if you eat only one!

Jim's  - South Street (a total freak show that street is) young crowd and the steaks are big and traditional (chopped).......did I mention the freak show down on south.  Watch out for the "flash Mobs" lately
young kids kicking the Chit out of old people for the fun of it. (20 to 30 year olds)

Dellasandro's or "Dell's" is not really in the city, they are in Roxborough and not much atmosphere but great steaks and big.  good for locals.


of course Pat's and Geno's is in the heart of South Phila. safe and interesting
note: do not try to go after a game has just let out. South Philly becomes a parking lot.

Oh buy the way Joey Vento (owner of Geno's) is a Harley rider and Goes down to the Bike events every Year. I met him at Myrtle Beach One year giving out T shirts



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Oh buy the way Joey Vento (owner of Geno's) is a Harley rider and Goes down


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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2010, 10:36:47 AM »

We will be doing a coast to coast on the bike this summer and these two restuarants are on our list. I've been watching "Man vs Food" and have dedicated the whole trip to stopping everywhere we can to where he's been. The best cheesesteak in Phili was featured recently and I don't remember who won, but Pats and Geno's were featured. Lots to do on the way and back...fried chicken, BBQ, subs, burritos, cajun, and  Drink  Doc   
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We will be doing a coast to coast on the bike this summer and these two restuarants are on our list. I've been watching "Man vs Food" and have dedicated the whole trip to stopping everywhere we can to where he's been. The best cheesesteak in Phili was featured recently and I don't remember who won, but Pats and Geno's were featured. Lots to do on the way and back...fried chicken, BBQ, subs, burritos, cajun, and  Drink  Doc   


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We should be going through there mid afternoon on Oct 4th coming from DC on our way to NYC.  I'm buying the first round.  Doc
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We should be going through there mid afternoon on Oct 4th coming from DC on our way to NYC.  I'm buying the first round.  Doc

And be in NYC....? 5th or 6th? It'll be nice to see ya here!!! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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